dandantheadminman
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PotW 7 Votingpick your favourite by filling in the poll...
I included alot and tried to give everyone at least 1 chance.
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by jedi
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by fozzybear
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by hamish
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by dob_mike
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by rad2themax
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timB
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by hamish
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by niki
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by me
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by rad2tthemax
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jetsetdan
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10 rocks! 
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John
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I say 10
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duncan_g
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10 yeh although i also really like 7, 6 +5
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rad2themax
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Thanks for the votes  Although i dont really understand why Hamish's photos (3 and 7) havent had more votes- i sense a bias against XC content 
I like 2 aswell
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Hamish
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LOL.
Allegations of an anti-XC jeyboy bias?? Surely not?
It's possibly true as I've had coments for previous POTW such as "I could't vote for someone with an XC helmet" 
I'm surprised your other pic hasn't got more votes, max, as I think it's better than the sunset one.
And no 2 has my vote, it's a great capture.
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rad2themax
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Haha, yer i agree about no 2. Is a really nice shot.
I want to shoot the sunset photo again really, had no tripod etc. And i prefered some of the other riding pics i put in to the abubica one i think. I couldnt decide at all though
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fozzybear
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Ok.. i really like shot 10 BUT (and this is me being anal) the DOF is out.
the lower part of the rider silhouette (near the wheel and forks) is blured (as you said you wished you had a tripod..) that would have made it a truly great shot IMO.
With a great DOF and a tripod... WOW... it would have been so much shaper.. Great shot all the same though..
thanks for the comments about mine.. was there for over 6 hours to get the shot...
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Hamish
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I wonder if it's camera shake rather than specifically a DOF problem as all the silhouette looks blurry to me. Either that or did rad2themax focus specifically on the background and not the rider as the background looks more in focus? Surely not? That would be an unforgiveable faux pas.
I think it's a gorgeous sunset which is almost spoiled by a rather bland, cliched piece of composition, never mind the blur. There's no sense of scale or perspective and it looks like it could have been staged in someone's back garden or a car park, rather than reflect anything to do with MTBing. I think if the annoying bush to right was absent then we could see what was beyond the rider. That would help things a lot.
I think it's difficult to get sunset photos that have a genuine atmosphere about them and we've all shot ones with pretty colours that still don't seem to work. To me it seems like the "here is a lovely sunset with something totally uninspiring like a TV aerial just put in for the sake of it" except with a guy on a bike.
Anyway, I seem to be alone with my views as it's obviously popular. Good luck, rad2themax. I'm not having a go at you. I'm just stating my honest opinion. And if you go back to shoot it again could you take a strimmer with you as well as well as a tripod?
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mikedeere
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Nah Hamish, I'm with you on this one. The focus is right, its just the combination of camera shake and fringing by the looks of it. Noise ruins the sky, too.
Sorry to say, I'm a technical photographer... Basic errors just ruin it for me!
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dandantheadminman
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i hadnt noticed the noise in it till you said, but now you mention it, its def very noticible.
its handheld though so cant dis it too much
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rad2themax
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Yer thanks for all the comments everyone, its really appreciated. I dont like all the technical errors in it either, hence why i want to reshoot it and also why i didnt actually submit it in here untill a few other people reccomended i did.
Thanks again fro the critique. It will probably be nearer summer when i next get a chance to reshoot that particular spot as its more of our summer trails spot. The sunsets there are always amazing, its out of the city a bit and quite high up. A perfect place really.
I think i'll run it through a noise reduced i found on another forum i browse. Ill post the link up to it in the main section in a bit. Is an amazing program but can give some photos a kind of unnatural smoothness.
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Hamish
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| mikedeere wrote: | Nah Hamish, I'm with you on this one. The focus is right, its just the combination of camera shake and fringing by the looks of it. Noise ruins the sky, too.
Sorry to say, I'm a technical photographer... Basic errors just ruin it for me! |
Me too!
However,i f the POWM had to take into account fundamentals of photography such as the entries being properly exposed and focussed then we'd have very few making it through to the vote and it would be a bit dull. Also, I find it really interesting (and amusing) to look at them and see what people vote for. I wonder if the type of bike/trick/clothing trumps the basics required for any other photographic competition
I was secretly disappointed that Adam didn't put this nicely focussed, properly exposed, yet totally Uber-jeyboy XC pic as my entry:
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rad2themax
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Yer that photo is technically brilliant But like i said- XC discrimination 
I think for the next POTM everyone should only be allowed to submit 1 photo only but all photos should get through to the voting. This means everyone gets a chance and can't say their best photo wasn't submitted (not having a go at you or anything Hamish- i've kind of done it do  ).
That then means that if people have a few photos that they cant decide between they can always put them in the photo critique forum for critique and ask people which one they think they should pick- we'll also get more good threads in photo critique that way.
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Hamish
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| rad2themax wrote: | Yer that photo is technically brilliant But like i said- XC discrimination
I think for the next POTM everyone should only be allowed to submit 1 photo only but all photos should get through to the voting. This means everyone gets a chance and can't say their best photo wasn't submitted (not having a go at you or anything Hamish- i've kind of done it do ).
That then means that if people have a few photos that they cant decide between they can always put them in the photo critique forum for critique and ask people which one they think they should pick- we'll also get more good threads in photo critique that way. |
LOL. Cheers rad, that post was a tiny bit tongue in cheek. I totally agree with your suggestion of only 1 photo with all getting through, and about using the photo critique threads more. Still who really cares? After all it's just a bit of fun
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dandantheadminman
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yeh, ive found people generally vote for the 'coolest' pic, and unfortunately XC generally doesnt get many votes, o well, i guess people arent as interested in looking at XC.
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jedi
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by the way adam,i prefered the bw rider in the berm out of mine :O>
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Hamish
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| Trail_Builder wrote: | | yeh, ive found people generally vote for the 'coolest' pic, and unfortunately XC generally doesnt get many votes, o well, i guess people arent as interested in looking at XC. |
You'd also be surprised how many XC people find pics of jumps to be just as boring and uninspiring unless there's something exceptional about it. I guess what sort of riding you do influences things a lot.
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jedi
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big alpine xc pics rock imo :O)
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Hamish
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I like pics that have that 'wow' factor regardless of the type of riding, be it XC/DH/4X/Freeride/trials/street or even road. Although people wearing lycra in XC is pretty jey
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jedi
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lycra does belong in underwear
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Hamish
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| jedi wrote: | | lycra does belong in underwear |
Agreed. Unfortunately some of the people that turn up for our rides will insist on that sort of nonsense. I guess if all else fails there's always photoshop.
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rad2themax
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| Hamish wrote: | | After all it's just a bit of fun |
Thats what you think
I agree with you about types of riding though, i wouldnt go to look at pictures on an XC forum myself for example but on a photography forum it should be about the photo. Also the thing i like about alot of XC photos isn't really the riding but the view behind the rider or the surroundings etc. Some of them could be landscape photos by themselves almost.
Why exactly do people wear lycra? Sorry its a genuine question, i can understand it if there trying to break some sort of speed record but surely the milliseconds of extra speed it gives you arent worth it in XC, is it warmer or something?
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dandantheadminman
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i think it doesnt rub as much on the seat so it more comfy on long rides, those that have had to pedal vast distance on a dh bike/seat with jeans know what i mean
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jedi
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i wear baggies and calvins for all day xc rides!
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JAW
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I found that a real toughie to vote, but had to choose No.6 in the end - it just had the most instant impact on me.
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