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Hamish Forum Veteran

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Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 8:04 pm Post subject: Four Fisheyes from Tuesday |
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Here are a few shots I took yesterday at Kirroughtree, before the snow and the fecking cold got a bit much. They're all taken with the Nikkor 10.5mm fisheye, although a couple have had a little cropping.
and yes, that is my bike in the third pic 
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jetsetdan Site Admin


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Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 8:30 pm Post subject: |
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loving the pics...
Hamish could you advise me on where to get a cheap fish eye for my vid camera?
its spec is f=2.1 37.8mm 1:1.8 O 37 Lens. _________________ Ride like you have insurance. Save a tree, eat a Beaver!
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rad2themax Quite High User

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Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 8:37 pm Post subject: |
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Great as usual. Some awesome facial expressions going on there!
Shame about the white skies though, i know it cant really be helped but just always manages to take my eyes of the action. Also in some pictures it's kinda bled into the trees if i'm being real picky. The last picture has a slightly better sky though, still grey obviously but just not quite so white and bright. Could these bright skies be rectified by more flash but then exposing less so the foregrounds were still the same but the skies would be darker?
Love the fisheye effect though. I also like how, being shots in natural terrain, there's no straight lines so the fisheye isn't quite so noticable but still brings the rider out and jus generally adds to the impact of it.
EDIT: Oh and Dan cheap 0.45X lenses that go onto 37mm video cameras can be found on ebay. Just search 37mm wide angle or something similair. These are generally known as 'semi fisheye though. A proper fisheye will be 0.3X usually. These are alot harder to find without shelling out alot of cash for baby deaths and such but raynox do a Clip On 0.3X that will fit. I have no experience with clip on though as my 0.45X is screw on but should be ok. If it's not great you've only wasted a tenner.
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dandantheadminman Site Admin

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Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 8:58 pm Post subject: |
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again, hamish, loving your shots and you got an awesome trail network near ya, grrrr lol
you comment on the pics, the only errors i can see are the burnt skies, i no you dont liek flash though, so lengthing shutter speed and more flash you aint gunna do lol _________________ Ride like you have insurance.
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Hamish Forum Veteran

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Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 8:58 pm Post subject: |
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| rad2themax wrote: | Great as usual. Some awesome facial expressions going on there!
Shame about the white skies though, i know it cant really be helped but just always manages to take my eyes of the action. Also in some pictures it's kinda bled into the trees if i'm being real picky. The last picture has a slightly better sky though, still grey obviously but just not quite so white and bright. Could these bright skies be rectified by more flash but then exposing less so the foregrounds were still the same but the skies would be darker? |
LOL. Stu's facial expressions are always ace. Cheers.
The blown skies are annoying but couldn't be helped in those lighting conditions. It's possible to expose for the skies and use flash for the subject, but that's not really an option in those shots. You'd end up with the foreground and rider being really underexposed and you'd need the hell of a powerful flash to light up a forest or a section of hillside. The fisheye takes in approx 180 degree angle of view so, unless you're up close, you'd need a section of floodlighting from your local footie ground.
I think part of the bleeding into the trees is due to the fact I panned to keep the rider sharp and the chromatic abberation, which happens with this lens in high contrast situations, makes it more noticeable.
I guess I could always replace the skies using photoshop but I really can't be arsed. I'll have a beer and see if I feel like it later. _________________ Hamish |
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Hamish Forum Veteran

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Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 9:07 pm Post subject: |
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| Trail_Builder wrote: | again, hamish, loving your shots and you got an awesome trail network near ya, grrrr lol
you comment on the pics, the only errors i can see are the burnt skies, i no you dont liek flash though, so lengthing shutter speed and more flash you aint gunna do lol |
HAH!
I used flash in all of those pics (see above for an explanation of the reasons why the skies are blown and more flash wouldn't have helped in those circumstances). The reason why it doesn't look like flash was used is because I metered for the ambient light first, and then added flash. That way I was able to get away with a fairly slow shutter speed and panning (approx 1/125) and it's a nice fairly balanced effect.
Kirroughtree is a fantastic trail but is almost 3hrs drive from my house.
I still have some other great trails nearer to me though. _________________ Hamish |
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Roo Forum Master

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Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 12:04 am Post subject: |
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| I really like the last but the others don't do anything for me. How do you get on with the fisheye? |
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Hamish Forum Veteran

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Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 9:32 am Post subject: |
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Cheers, Roo. I much prefer the last one as well. The others were a bit of experimenting but it doesn't really work for XC pics other than real close ups. I have to say that I'm still finding my feet with it. I'm still not sure about the sharpness wide open, the CA in high contrast sitautions is pretty annoying, but indoor flash converage with ext flash & wide panel is pretty much perfect. I might try and stick to using f3.5 or 4 as a minimum and save it for better lighting conditions, but it's a lot of fun.
How have you found it? _________________ Hamish |
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jetsetdan Site Admin


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Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 9:38 am Post subject: |
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1st and 3rd do it for me. nice and clean & crisp.
facial expressions are funny.. but add to the mood of pic.
Looks sketchy what he is doing.. lol  _________________ Ride like you have insurance. Save a tree, eat a Beaver!
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Roo Forum Master

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Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 3:16 pm Post subject: |
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| Hamish wrote: | the CA in high contrast sitautions is pretty annoying, but indoor flash converage with ext flash & wide panel is pretty much perfect. I might try and stick to using f3.5 or 4 as a minimum and save it for better lighting conditions, but it's a lot of fun.
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I've found it quite bad for that as well, I tend to use it at f4 or higher anyway just to help with sharpness a bit. |
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Hamish Forum Veteran

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Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 5:12 pm Post subject: |
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I've only taken it out on one nice sunny day so, for the rest of the time, I've been stuck at wide apertures unless I get into the realms of ISO 3200! I don't know about having to stop it down too far - f4 is pretty darn sharp:
f4 1/500 ISO 100
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JAW Site Admin


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Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 7:46 pm Post subject: |
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| jetsetdan wrote: | loving the pics...
Hamish could you advise me on where to get a cheap fish eye for my vid camera?
its spec is f=2.1 37.8mm 1:1.8 O 37 Lens. |
I think you can get them from Jessops. Just go into your local with your camera and ask. We got a wide angle lens (0.7 I think) for around £40 from them. _________________
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jetsetdan Site Admin


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Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 9:17 am Post subject: |
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Wicked! thanks JAW.
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